Recently one of the followers of my stuff named Phill made this observation in one of the blogs:
I know your against it but recently I tried the approach from behind just for giggles and it worked well. May have just been that night, lol.
Phil is referring to one of my rules on the club game basics post, here it is by skills:
13 – Approaching from behind: I do not recommend approaching a woman with her back turned to you, because this is what every other loser does. There is nothing original or unique about this approach. Additionally, she has to turn around to see who is dancing with her, and if you get rejected it will look really bad and lower your value to other potential targets/groups. The exception to the rule is when she has anticipated that you are coming behind her after giving you IOIs. The three most common IOIs she will give are 1) looking at you while fixing her hair 2) proximity to where you are, or 3) bumping you on purpose or subtly. The second exception is booty music with a younger crowd. Remember, in this one your target’s age comes into play.
I will expand on the exception to the rule, I wrote the book and made that post about 5 years or so ago. Recently In one of the clubs in my rotation, there is a club called “Pawn Shop” the club has changed lately to an 18 and over demographic, translation most of the girls are between 18-21 ( I recently have an 18 year old that could be my daughter going crazy for me, but I have rejected her cause I feel like a pedo, though she looks 24).
I notice that opening and dancing from behind specially Hip hop, reggae, R and b etc… is the way to go, specially with the twerk popularity. I know you guys love that grinding shit from behind, but for me is really annoying, I do not get hard and it just make the seduction process more complicated cause she is running the show.
Now for you to approach from behind there must be 3 requirements: hip hop, regatton, r and b, booty music and the likes, number 2 the club has to CROWDED and number 3 is a 16-23 demographic. If those 3 conditions are there “skills seal of approval”.
I tried it this weekend and all the girls I danced with, open, of course opening does not mean shit! but with this method I DID NOT CLOSE any of the girls with this approach. Why? again is not conductive to a dance floor seduction aka bubble aka skills method style. Caveat.- I have fucked many girls in the past dancing from behind though, but not ideal.
Here is a video I made a while back on the dance floor game mistakes:
I’ve being follow your advice for dancing and practicing a little in my room. Last night a group of girls (hot girls) said “Man, you really know how to dance!” and kept complimenting me. A few were trying to get close to me and one hot girl even turned around her shock her booty at me with a big smile on her face. In that situation, I think I could have pulled her in by the hips and slowly grind that ass.
Anyway, still new to dance floor game so I was a little timid about dancing with someone I don’t know, but then some guy who they didn’t like, and who had no dance moves, kept trying to get between us and hump them so they took off.
Any advice for getting the courage to move from solo dancing to approaching a girl? I feel like if I took some salsa classes or had experience dancing with a girlfriend at a club (old girlfriends weren’t into that), then I’d have more courage to approach random girls.
But man, as a guy who has had no success in the clubs in the past, your tactics are freaking awesome!
PS – I noticed that when I start looking at the ceiling or floor while I dance instead of other people, that’s when the girls start to approach. I guess it looks like I’m in my own little world having fun and not worrying about other people. Just an interesting thing to note.
Women will approach specially or give you proximity (they all will be around you on purpose so you can open them) at the beginning of the night if you are a good dancer, some times does not mean anything is to warm themselves up and have fun. If a creeper is around you can “rescue them” (i may write a post on how to do this smoothly.) Go to the youtube channel and look for my video on dance floor openers and the one on micro escalation that may give you some ideas… Thanks for following my stuff, keep reporting your success or things you need help on…
Would college bars/clubs b e an option then?
yes!
I wonder why that is, other than maturity, why most girls don’t really grind after their early 20s? Of course there are some exceptions.
uhmmm, good question and i don’t really have an answer…