It seems that in recent years, with all the men right stuff, mgtow, online etc… we are getting away of the original goal of the so called “seduction community”, so first what is the seduction community:
“The seduction community is a network of men online and offline who systematically study how to improve their sexual and romantic success with women. “Success” means whatever a man’s goals with women are, whether they be one-night stands, casual relationships, serious relationships, multiple relationships (polyamory), or even marriage”.
Here is the definition of a stranger:
strang·er
1. One who is neither a friend nor an acquaintance.
2. A foreigner, newcomer, or outsider.
3. One who is unaccustomed to or unacquainted with something specified; a novice: a stranger to our language; no stranger to hardship.
4. A visitor or guest.
5. Law One that is neither privy nor party to a title, act, or contract.
The seduction community originally was founded on the idea that a dude with no social circle, no financial resources, no amazing looks, no fame etc…can go up to a LIVE stranger via cold approach pick up and without using money, the traditional courtship dating, and all of the regular stuff portrait by the media specially in movies, have sexual or romantic success, again “success” define by whatever your goal is.
One of the key elements of the seduction community was “field testing” in other words the dudes got together and one dude would say these steps worked for me, i think they may work for you. So others would say “oh shit let me go ahead and try that and see if it works for me”.
Anyways, lately it seems that we are getting away from all of that:
1.- A bunch of infield youtube footage, lay and field reports, were you learn or get ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I can out do most of the dudes doing field and lay reports, but i don’t do that, why? cause for me to write a lay or field report, is with the GOAL to teach or to make an observation. Most of the lay reports in most forums, there is nothing to be learned, a bunch of dudes high fiving each other for caca.(except maybe 1 or 2 reports). Here is by a seducer named chief:
I also noticed that, despite the lack of value in my old LRs, most of my older Field Reports that didn’t end up in a lay were excruciatingly detailed! I didn’t get what I wanted, so I focused SO MUCH on the process while I was writing about it. A lot of LRs (and I certainly don’t mean all of them) lack detail and value because guys just bask in the good feeling of having gone full monty so they forget how they got there!
When you write your LRs, guys, put your ego aside and get down to the nitty gritty on the process you went through. A Lay Report shouldn’t be a brag report; it is an opportunity to let others learn from your adventures.
2.- A bunch of posts teaching “Social circle game” again that was not the goal of the community to begin with, and doing “social circle game” presents tons of problems, like shitting were you are eating, drama, etc… Specially for beginners and people learning this stuff. I talk about that here.
3.- Online dating, is just the plus, the icing on the cake, a form of diversification. Again this is not what it was the original goal of the community. The reason i bring this up is cause is if you really want to get good at this, you need to be good at COLD APPROACH PICK UP first and foremost.
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